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Friday, August 05, 2005

Mrs. Know-It-All

We just hate them, don't we? People that go around and act like they have it all figured out and that they are just slightly smarter and better informed than anyone else. Somehow they always have an answer for everything and even though you might actually value them as friends, something in you resents their attitude and implores you to find subtle ways to put them down and discredit their ideas.

I think that I come across sometimes as a "know-it-all." Just for the record, I don't know it all. In fact, the more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Last night we had a family gathering that included my family as well as my aunts and uncles and cousins. By the end of the evening I was totally irritated at my family. "Why so?" you ask. "Your family is so nice...and fun...and interesting...and according to BB's blog your one brother is the epitome of Christianity." Well, we all have our carnal moments.

Here's the phenomena.

Each of us tends to be rather egocentric. "What, the world doesn't revolve around me and my ideas? Fancy that."

Each of us tends to be satisfied with our own opinions, choices, and ways of reconciling the world we have with the world we want. "What, you've made different choices? Well, here's how it works for me; I'm an experienced mom (or new mom), and I'm sure I have nothing to learn from you."

Many of us prefer to parent the way we were parented rather than looking for better ways or even the best way given our particular situation. (Meaning: the best way isn't one way for everyone; it's the best way for you with the variables God has given you.) "Parenting is easy; don't worry so much; I turned out OK; it will all come out in the wash."

And then, many of us look down the noses of our experience at those who are newly experiencing a given situation and condescendingly smile. And my spirit writhes within me when I am the recipient of that smile.

What did I learn from last night? I prayed that I would be an encourager to all even those I perceive as "know-it-alls." I prayed that I would never lose my desire to learn. I realized that perhaps my ideas would come across in a more constructive manner if I remember to value the opinions of the experienced moms around me--ask their advice, listen to their stories. All the things that irritated me in my various family members? I don't want to be those things to others.

It is very easy, however, to get on a bandwagon of what works for you and in the process end up devaluing other equally valid scenarios that work for others. My problem is that I often perceive parents as reactive rather than proactive. I don't always see their long term goals for the children and sometimes, though I'm sure they have positive end results in mind, I do not see them implementing a series of steps to reach them. And that's what I don't get.

Parenting is the ultimate challenge. I want to raise children who change the world whether it be in small ways or large ways. When I was a teenager, a mom of some of my peers said of her sons, "My boys aren't leaders." Somehow she didn't recognize their potential...all three of them are currently in leadership positions and doing it very well. Wouldn't it have made a positive difference in her mothering if she recognized them as leaders when they were teenagers instead of underestimating their God-given capabilities? Wouldn't they have then been even better equipped for the leadership positions God had for them?

So, my sister-in-law very kindly said to me last night (without the patronizing smile, I might add), "You sound like a new mom." I don't deny that I'm going about the process of parenting with youthful passionate idealism, but I like to suppose that it is also combined with some centered goals and well-defined steps to accomplish those goals. I've had years to contemplate how to raise children. I've watched my siblings' families with keen interest taking many mental notes. B's children are so polite and hospitable. D's children are so creative and inquisitive. L's children enjoy working and are always willing to help with whatever needs doing. J's children are so well adjusted and pleasant to be around. The interesting thing is to analyze how those children became that way. Most times it is a direct result of the way they were parented.

You see, I don't see parenting as a shot in the dark. Do you? What is parenting to you? Are there any absolute principles you follow?

And then, as I have been reminded three times today in three different ways as I was thinking about the contents of this discourse. It is not about us and our expertise and our parenting skills; it's not about what I know or don't know. We water, and God gives the increase. I am where I am today more as a result of my mother's prayers than as a result of perfect parenting although I am grateful for many of the ways I was parented. Seems to me we owe it to our children to parent them the best we know how, with intelligence and research, and then pray daily for God to bless them, keep them, and draw them to Himself.

Being a mom has taught me: Other kids' poop smells worse than your own child's poop.

Blaine's newest skill: blowing bubbles

50 Comments:

  • At 6:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Along with zeal, relax. God fills in all the cracks with grace.

     
  • At 7:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    As a mother of older children now and one younger,I realize that some of the things I thought were so important really arent as important as i thought when I started in as parent who had all the answers. God has a way of giving you children that make you eat your own words sometimes.lol I agree relax a little more.

     
  • At 7:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well I do know that your siblings are doing something right.As far as I can tell, they all have exceptional families. Of course we need to do our best,but our best is just not good enough. Thats why we need God's help. There is no parent on on God's green earth that has done everything perfect.

     
  • At 7:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Yes your brother IS the epitome of christianity!! Of course we know everyone is human though...who doesn't have their moments?

     
  • At 7:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Rosie, I have to admit that I agreed with your sister-in-law when she said that you sound like a new mom (I remember being there) But I do admire you . . .all the effort and energy put into this new stage of your life. God bless you!

     
  • At 3:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The key for me is to know my childrens hearts and let them be who God wants them to be. To encourage them to be who God made them to be. Therefore, I need to know what there dreams and asperations are.

     
  • At 9:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    ITF: I love anons. It doesn't cloud the message with the messenger.

    It also gives not only the commentor more freedom to be honest, but also the blogger more freedom to do the same in response. From past experience I know some bloggers who would never have had the courage to respond in the manner in which they did if they had known the source of the comment!

    Not only that, anons are a humble folk. They don't feel the need for the public to recognize the praise they receive from others.

    In addition, it's entertaining to watch those who think they can identify the anon.

     
  • At 3:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Its proper to go anon when the person your commenting to would have no idea who you would be even if you would tell them.

     
  • At 11:33 PM, Blogger Dorcas said…

    Well, Rosie, I hope I don't patronize you because you are doing an excellent job as a mom. And you challenge us older moms to be more goal-oriented and proactive.
    My experience: Six children who are so different from one another that you have to start from scratch with each one. What worked for one doesn't work for any of the others.
    My kids tend to be extreme with whatever they do and are, and I cannot tell you how many times neither the books nor the experienced moms had any advice for my situation, and I was on my knees crying out for wisdom.
    Maybe God sent me these children because I would have tended to be a know-it-all otherwise.

     
  • At 8:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Paraphrasing from your last post: "My goal is to enjoy all stages 'motherhood'. Bring on the 'new mom, the satisfied mom, the frustrated mom, the crying for wisdom mom, and even the advise- giving mom.' So far I am enjoying the stage I am in with 'motherhood' even as I anticipate 'future stages'."

    Ah yes...........enjoy the adventure of life to it's fullness!
    Sharon (who continues to enjoy the adventure of being a mom -- it gets better and better as the years roll by)

     
  • At 8:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You asked if there is any absolute principles to follow. The exciting answer is, "Yes!". However, you will find them only in scripture. Period.

    The principles remain unwavering for all children no matter how different they are. But the applications need to be as varied as the child.

    For example, obedience is a scriptural principle and a must. One child may need only a disapproving look to correct him while a sibling may need a sound application of the rod.

    I recall you, Rosie, once saying that it was your goal to become punctual. A goal appropiate for all of us. To accomplish that one person may need to arise earlier, another may need to stay more focused after they are up, while the next one may need to be more content about leaving some things undone before departing.

    Dorcas is at the place where God wants all of us to be--crying out to Him for wisdom.

    This however, does not mean that we cannot gain insights from one another. I am cautious about giving child-rearing advice because if it doesn't work for the inquirer they will either think that it wasn't the truth or in most cases they feel like a failure.

    As for the dirty diaper aroma, wait 'til Blaine starts eating solids, especially meat! As a side note, did you know that strict vegans have no body or stool odor? Experienced.

    Happy mothering!

     
  • At 9:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    read this please!! http://www.ezzo.info/Voices/10years.htm

     
  • At 12:58 PM, Blogger Rosie Leichty said…

    Back to Ezzo. I feel the mother's pain in the website you suggested.

    My perspective regarding experts and other people's insights or advise is this: I assume Christian adults to be rational, logical, thinking, and feeling people. When that doesn't happen, disaster strikes. Too many people want a formula for life whether it be dating, parenting, or church life. There are no absolute formulas outside the word of God.

    That said, I still believe Christians should be rational, logical, thinking, and feeling people. Some of what Ezzo preaches works. Some of his principles are based on Scripture. This person's experience does not, for me, discredit everything Ezzo says because from my experience combined with my rational, logical, thinking, and feeling perspective, some of what he says is true and helpful and part of my parenting toolbox.

    When I recommend people or books or ideas (not counting the Bible), I never recommend people accept them blindly and follow them blindly.

    For the record, what I've heard Ezzo say is "When the child's hungry, feed him." Another thing I've heard him say is to use my own brain. He gives some ideas, suggestions, and illustrations and then, what I read in the book was to use my own brain and do what seemed best for my child because it is my child after all.

    Bill Gothard is another example of a wonderful godly teacher with many truthful things to say. I can recognize that and learn from him and use the materials he has that are useful to my life without becoming one of his "groupies."

    Thanks for all your comments.

    Thanks for chastising the anons, ITF.

     
  • At 3:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    For anyone that is concerned about Ezzo. I just seen Rosie's baby on Sunday, and he is the picture of health. So everyone can relax, he is being fed very well by the looks of it!!! Rosie, you have one handsome little boy!!!

     
  • At 4:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Excuse me, but I didn't feel the chastisement. Sorry.

     
  • At 9:05 PM, Blogger Rosie Leichty said…

    I also wanted to say to all my relatives out there who are worried and wondering if they are the ones who patronized me at the family gathering--I'm not irritated any more. And, in all actuality, my irritation was probably a cumulative result of weeks rather than anything said on that particular evening. And besides that, I love my family, and the pleasure I get out of my interaction with my family far outweighs any momentary or recurring irritation.

    Just in case you were worried.

     
  • At 10:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To the anonymous before me!!:) Sounds like you are a tad bratty!!! Probably a case of not enough discipline as a kid!:):)

     
  • At 11:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    A tad bratty? Nay. Just ornery. Ask my husband.

    Actually I choose to look at the positive. Just go back and see how many compliments ITF had to offer. AND he did admit that it is only a guess that we are chicken!

    Truth be known, I was one of those kids with a tender conscience who would wither when given only a disapproving look.

     
  • At 4:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    UH OH Rosie dosent like anons.
    ( AONS We've been chastized )LOL

     
  • At 8:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Whatever you do dont listen to us expeienced moms. After all we're just a bunch of uneducated mommmas who have emotionally scarred children ;) because they weren't taught to sleep all through the night at 3 months instead of 6 months or 1 year or woe be it 2 yrs, and their is no possible way we can enjoy mothering because of that.lol
    ( Actually all my children slept through the night really young. Not because I used the Ezzo method. (so maybe I'm safe) lol :)

     
  • At 8:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    oops, experienced and mommas, (part of my being uneducated) lol

     
  • At 9:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    All (and I had many) of my children slept through the night (at least an 8 hour span) at two weeks, except for one who took all of three weeks! I never heard of Ezzo back then. And no, I never did on purpose let them cry longer than 10 minutes ever.

    God knows what we can and can't handle and He knew that I needed sleep. PTL!

     
  • At 12:13 PM, Blogger Mrs. Darling said…

    Well i havent been asked for my personal opinion but when has that ever stopped me. I so agree with ITF. Annons should be banned from the blog world! And it is never proper to go anon! Never, unless you belong to the CIA or some other undercover operation. Annons are cowards and not to be condoned. (unless they're super, super sweet to you. Then I guess they can get by) But there now thats just my opinion!

    Now to the question at hand. Rosie, every new mother needs to have that new mother zeal, the enthusiasm unhampered by the tears and frustrations of long years of parenting.

    We all had it and you deserve to have it too. But... things do change as you raise kids. I have been a mother for 23 years and I now know one thing! I have no parenting answers. I never say "My child will do this or that, or "My child would never do this or that".

    I never tell a mother to let her child cry it out or not. I never offer advice to a new mon even when I know whats she's doing isnt going to be the answer. (And there are some things you know from being a mom for lots of years)

    I once overheard someone at church tell another lady to come to me and ask me about the toddler question she had because I had parented longer.
    I stopped in my tracks and addressed this lady, I said, " No, do not ask anyone with adult children how to raise kids. They have no answers. It's the young parents that have all the answers. Go to them."

    Now of course that was partly tongue in cheek. But there's a lot of truth to that. A wise mama knows that the only way her child will ever grow in wisdom and stature and favor with God and man is for her to be in continual prayer for that child.

    So dream on. Enjoy these early untainted parenting years. It's your right! God wants it that way. He made it that way!

    But remember...the true making of that child is done in the prayer closet.

     
  • At 2:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well, Mrs. Darling, I am one of the anons. If I tell You who I am will that make my words a little more valid or sweeter. I really dont think so. Besides You or Rosie would have no clue who I was anyway. So why tell. I like the zeal too. I think God does give us each other to help and guide us through life. What would I have done without the advice of those around me - even from those that I did not know personally.

    PS The Bible does say for the older to teach the younger. ;)lol

     
  • At 5:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Interesting. Of the 26 previous comments 15 are by anons. Of the remaining 11 comments, 5 of those think that we're of enough value to be mentioned. So get rid of the anons and what do you have left?

     
  • At 5:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Interesting. Of the 26 previous comments 15 are by anons. Of the remaining 11 comments, 5 of those think that we're of enough value to be mentioned. So get rid of the anons and what do you have left?

     
  • At 5:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    OK. Anons not only don't have anything very noble to say and are chicken, but neither do they have computer savvy. However, we do know when to apologize. Sorry about the above double entry.

     
  • At 4:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    By the way Mrs.Darling With Your name and web sight you may as well be an anon because it dosent give me a clue as to who you might be. So if I dub myself with the name of Mrs. Sweetheart will that make so I have the privilege of commenting on blogs?
    Mrs Sweetheart( one of the anons);)

     
  • At 4:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    oops, Mrs Darling you just gave some advice. (how sad)

     
  • At 8:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Like I said earlier, ITF, we're a humble folk who aren't seeking public recognition. But thanks a heap anyway!

     
  • At 8:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Rosie, You're right on in your comment, "And, in all actuality, my irritation was probably a cumulative result of weeks rather than anything said on that particular evening."

    We can learn a lot by looking at #1 - what irritates us and even at #2 - who irritates us. I might ask myself, 'Would I have been peeved if anyone other than Mrs. Condesending had made that comment?'

    I tend to believe that most people, most of the time, have good intentions, even if I'd like to snarl in response to their input. Sooo the challenge is to check my irritation, accept the love and good intentions of others and move on with loving the adventure of living!

     
  • At 9:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    HA! You all are a diverse group of hysterical people. I read and was amused.

    Rosie, I do belive I will have to stop by more often.

    I used to be an avid anon. But alas, my cover has been blown (I wasn't exactly, really, totally trying to hide.....) and now I am simply basking in the bliss of my new state of "Ag"ness. It's a funny thing though. People actually call me that like when they meet me. I always offer my real name as an option but...... oh well, I'm getting used to it.

    Isn't blog life fun!

    Ag

     
  • At 10:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    *smiles* Oh, what great fun-- bushels and bushels of anons.

    --Delia

     
  • At 4:33 PM, Blogger Mrs. Darling said…

    ITF thankyou for coming to my defense there earlier. Thta is indeed a weal arguement that anon made.

    I think the biggest reason people are annons is lack of knowledge. They have no idea how anons are perceived in the blog world.

    Bloggers have now become a subculture of America. They have all their own norms and standards that are not understood by the nonbloggers or the new bloggers.

    One of the biggest blogging no no's is to go anon.

    So get smart anons! Get a name.

     
  • At 4:35 PM, Blogger Mrs. Darling said…

    One of the other big no no's is major typos.. I am guilty in the above entry. Do with me what you will.

     
  • At 7:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    O boys, I one of the anons among all you other anons has just been perceived as stupid and ignorant.
    If its so proper why do they give the option to leave an anonymous comment?
    Mrs.Darling, sorry we're so dense.
    Mrs. Sweetheart

     
  • At 9:46 PM, Blogger Mrs. Darling said…

    That option is for people who do not have a blogger profile. They expect that you know the blogger norms and put your name at the bottom of your comment.

     
  • At 9:52 PM, Blogger Mrs. Darling said…

    'Other' is for people to use if they have not established a blogger profile but they have a weblog elsewhere. They can fill in the empty fields after they click 'other' and their name and weblog will then show on the comment.

    Anonymous is used for those who do not have a blogger profile or a webpage elsewhere. Like I said, they expect that if you're perusing the weblogs you have a very basic knowledge at least of what is expected in the blog world. Obviously you lacked that basic knowledge until now.

     
  • At 10:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mrs. Darling! Thanks for coming 'back' into our world and enlightning us poor dense Mennonites!!! So I shall now sign my new blog name.
    ~Mrs. Anonymous

     
  • At 12:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Rosie!!!!! You did great with this post!! Just look at all the responses.. I love a good debate.

     
  • At 8:55 AM, Blogger Mrs. Darling said…

    Sorry anon. I didnt mean to be enlightening dense Mennonites. You are an individual. This is the first I knew you were a Mennonite. Thats the problem with going anon. I didnt know anything about you. Please dont take it that I was putting you down at all for being a Mennonite. I love the Mennonites and dont consider them dense at all. In fact I still feel very Mennonite myself. Once it's in your blood it seems to stay there.

    Anyway I want to apologize for anything I might have said that would have had you thinking I thought you were a dense Mennonite.

    We all had to learn the rules one time or another.

     
  • At 6:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Thanks for all the enlightening information. We will be dense no more.
    Blessings, Mrs. Sweetheart (one of the used to be anons);)

    PS Mrs. Darling I still dont know who you are????

     
  • At 9:02 PM, Blogger Mrs. Darling said…

    If you click on my name it will take you to my website. There you will find out all the info about me. I have explained many times on these blogs who I am. You can look it up anywhere.

     
  • At 9:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mrs. Darling...I did not for one minute think you were thinking we were dense mennonites. I was just teasing you!!! So please don't take me seriously...if you would have seen my face...I was laughing the whole time I was writing it.. so Peace!!!
    ~Mrs. Anonymous ((wink))

     
  • At 4:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Yeah but your still an anon to me. lol ; )

     
  • At 5:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mrs Darlin, Yeah peace here to. Sorry if I offended you in any way. Just giving you a rough time.
    Blessings, Mrs Sweetheart ; )

     
  • At 7:58 AM, Blogger Mrs. Darling said…

    Nope I wasnt offended. I was afraid you were though and I never meant anything against the Mnenonites. I just wanted to be sure that was clear.
    Peace.

     
  • At 1:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    If you will notice none of this anon controversy was in Rosie's post.

    ITF, maybe I'm beginning to get it. You want us anons to have an identity so you know who to address when you need some advice?

    Or when you may see us on some other site, you'd for sure want to read the comments? Give me a bit more time. Thanks.

    Have you noticed how much calmer Life in the Shoe has been lately? I've taken a vacation from leaving comments there.

     
  • At 7:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Feel free to come argue on my blog..I love debating!!!LOL!

     
  • At 9:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    OK, so Mrs. Darling is Tammy.

    And Mrs. Sweetheart is Joy.

    Now, who is Mr(s) Whistleblower?

    Mr(s) Whistleblower

     

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